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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 11:07:35 pm »

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We advocate freedom of speech, but believe this should be undertaken within the context of British and UK law

Funny how you have one standard by which you measure anyone who speaks out against you, yet you have quite another standard when it comes to your own actions.

Perhaps you'd like to explain why it's OK to mislead the public about the services you offer ....
[10.7.08 - Moderator:  In the light of this update in the Guardian it would appear that Platte do, indeed, have an agreement with BiBC for some film and music content, despite previous denials by Paul Hague of BiBC (in an earlier Guardian article), although the extent of this agreement is still unclear.   I have, therefore, moderated this section of mattd's post, which had been made in good faith after publication of the Guardian's earlier article.]

I am so glad you are now receiving legal threats [Note from moderator - this would appear to still be true, from my reading of the Guardian article]from companies that are much larger than you, with a lot more money, who actually have a clue how to run a business. Whilst I don't always agree with how Hollywood companies operate, in this instance I think they have every right to take offence at the fabricated relationship you've suggested exists with Platte Media.

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One cannot expect customers to form an educated opinion or make an informed decision if certain information they read is inaccurate.

One cannot expect consumers to form an educated opinion or make an informed decision if certain information they see on your websites is inaccurate.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2008, 12:41:13 am »

Oh yeah


Platte Media


GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE



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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2008, 11:08:06 am »

Yes, they really do need to think again, don't they?  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2008, 07:38:44 pm »

Apologies, seems iv missed all the fun, been a bit busy lately.

anyway i would like a definate answer from you platte, that means i dont want any of this corporate rubbish (mainly becuase i dont understand it)

Why did you demand we remove our "removals" section when in your terms and conditions it CLEARLY states that your cough....customers.....cough, can remove the software whenever they like.

just thought id add, im quite suprised to see you here considering the big boys are onto you.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2008, 08:54:52 am »

A PS to my last posting, in particular for the benefit of Platte Media. 

My cautions to forum users about their use of threats, along with posts which had already been removed by myself because they included threats, have largely disappeared from this Forum as a result of the threats received by Andy Merrett from Platte's solicitors a while back.  If they think they can now claim that no action was ever taken to moderate forum users' views because much of this material has been removed at their insistence, then they are being extremely devious and, may I say, are  being libellous towards me personally.  I take a very dim view of this and shall, along with my fellow administrators, review whether or not we will allow them to post anything on this forum if they do not retract this claim or repeat similar allegations.

A copy of all material removed from the forum is, I believe, available should my assertions be challenged by Platte Media.  You have been warned.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 01:23:14 am »

Hacking and Trojan issues
Hacking is an illegal offense and Platte Media would never partake in this. Please note that the software can only be installed with consent. For further information, please go to Platte media FAQ – download demo. http://www.plattemedia.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=26.

Liar! I gave no consent. Allowing my 6 yr old son access to my pc is not giving consent to download your filth to my pc. Therefore SwampyUks statement still stands.
You've hacked my pc by default, not making sure the accessor is over 18 yrs of age.

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The software is not a Trojan.  A Trojan is a piece of software that disguises its true nature. Our terms and conditions make it very clear what the software does and that the individual must confirm (multiple times) that they wish to download it.


A trojan by definition is any code downloaded by sleight of hand, to the unsuspecting to enable the download of larger code.  Your software is therefore by defination in my professional and qualified opinion a trojan.

Again I agree with SwampyUk.

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Rendering Computers Unusable
Our billing profile is outlined in our Terms and Conditions, which have to be agreed to by the customer before installation of the software can take place. These were developed after consultation with OFT, and have been deemed acceptable to UK consumers. With our current billing system, the invoice only remains open for a maximum of 60 seconds.

6 yr olds are not counted as UK Consumers. This statement therefore is an admission of your guilt.

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Extortion (demanding money to remove your software from computers) and uninstalling the software
We do not demand money to remove the software from a computer. We do not require payment prior to uninstallation, but we do need an address to post the uninstall information to. Customer services can help with uninstalling the software.

No, they demand payment for removal of the software. They refuse to assist if the payment isn't made. They refuse to cancel the "contract" if the payment isn't made.
Also using the address given for anything other than the reason for which it was given is against the data protection act, not to mention your moral obligations. Any such data should be destroyed after use. However if someone refuses to give thier address details, quite obviously why..your ca's will refuse to assist. Making your statement a load of cobblers.

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Pornography
We currently only market the late night section of the site on Google and Yahoo. This is how one would find the site. The software is installed after viewing an advert for adult material and agreeing to the terms and conditions of the download. A date of birth is required and customers must be over 18.

Obviously can't really comment on this as i haven't seen this part of the software.  But given the degree of schooling these days. Simply requesting a date of birth to but without added credit card validation is pretty much a moot point.  You operate a scam. It's designed as a scam and it's working as a scam.   That the OFT has actually allowed this scam is another issue that needs to be taken up with them directly.  Obviously we need more laws so 'people'* like you cannot be allowed to run scams like this. (*Removed direct insult)

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Copyrights (Films)
We have a distribution license for all content on GetFilmsNow.

Surely, you mean "We NOW have a distribution licence" having been told to remove the illigal content by 20th Century Fox..

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A Proper Registration Format.
The registration format is a step by step process, including steps where consumers have to input a pin and agree to the Terms and Conditions. We are currently in the process of adding further steps to this process in response to the fact that, despite having to go through 7 separate confirmation screens and provide a pin number, certain individuals still manage to go through that process without realising what they are doing. More details are available from: http://www.plattemedia.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=26

Credit Card Verification For Over 18s.
We believe our billing method offers an innovative and safe method of payment, especially in light of current worries over online identity theft and credit card fraud. Our billing profile is outlined in our Terms and Conditions. As stated above, these were developed after consultation with OFT, and have been deemed acceptable to UK consumers. Requiring credit card verification would defeat the objective of providing consumers with a secure means of subscribing for services without the need to disclose their credit card information.  Additionally pages are age verified and which allows for easy blocking by Firefox and Internet explorer.

Longer Trial Period.
A three day free trial is offered with the chance to cancel the subscription, at any time, within three days. This information is downloaded to the consumer’s desk top. If the subscription is not cancelled within the three day period, the consumer is invoiced for one month’s subscription to the site GetFilmsNow. This is clearly outlined in the terms and conditions which the consumer agrees to before the download process can begin. We believe the three day free trial offers the consumer ample time to decide whether they would like to continue with the service or not. It should be noted that the majority of online service providers do not provide free trials.

We hope we have addressed your concerns. If you have any other queries, please contact Platte Media customer services on 0845 017 8386 so we can address your issues. Please ensure you have your Platte reference number at hand when you call.


As for the rest of this, it only affects those people after they've installed the software, IF they even consented to do so and largely is bollx.

Personally i don't like the idea of free trials for porn anyway. Especially if my son can access them so easily... also, since you're quite happy to quote the distance sale of goods act in other threads in relation to this scam of yours, running a 3 day free trial is obviously to make it impossible for anyone under the requirements of that law to be able to contact you in writing in time to thwart the contract.   Think of it this way...if you accept the 3 day trial...by the time you write in, your letter is probably sitting in a mail depot waiting to be delivered on the 8th day...thus allowing you to quote the distance act to worm out of cancelling the contract...the trial is essentially bait for the scam.

And my apologies if I appear somewhat blunt.  I'm a hands on type of person, I much prefer a more...physical approach to dealing with problems and people who make them.  I also work in customer/consumer services for a company "alot" bigger than yours with "alot" more customers than you'll ever have. I know exactly why companies like yours use excuses like the distance act...one of the many laws which should be abolished to force people like you to accept your responsibilities.

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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 08:07:46 am »

Rugster:  Thank you for sharing all this with the Forum.  I presume you have contacted (or will shortly contact) the OFT.  While their remit is limited in some respects, I think they would be interested in your experience.  I would urge you to do this and can help you to do so directly with the person in the OFT who has the remit for the Platte Media issue.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2008, 04:16:52 pm »

I am in the process of filing a complaint against Platte Media.   Police have told me i need to wait until monday to register a complaint, although its been logged, the unit i need to talk to is only in mon-fri. heh..

Heres hoping a big fraud doesnt occur on a Saturday...Scottish Police wouldn't know until monday morning..
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 11:54:46 pm »

Hi Rugster

I phoned the ICU (Internet Crime Unit) at Scotland Yard, and with what they said, it sounded like they wernt interested in it.......

No harm in trying tho
good luck

If you get anywhere please let us all know what they said and the course of action they are planning on taking against Platte (Crappie) Media



And this Part is to Platte

Thanks for your letter demanding the payment for £29.99 to be paid within 7 days, if not you will consider legal action against me......

Ah well the 7 days have passed I havent paid and Iv no intention of paying you.
So Im waiting for a letter from your solicitors..........

regards
Steve SwampyUK       
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2008, 03:36:35 pm »

Rugster

Please see my PM to you. It may be that I can help in supporting your police complaint
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 10:24:09 am »

Update as from today 12/08/08

I got a nice letter this morning from Platte.
Regarding the payment of £29.99, which I dont intend on paying and never will......

eres an extract from the main letter with the heading of

Re: Outstanding Balance - County Court Claim

Failure to make the above payment within 7 days from the date of this letter may result in us submitting a claim to the County Courts in accordance with clause 17.4 of our terms and conditions....

Also with this letter came a Pre Submission Information
from HMCS Money Claims Online

Issuing Court    Northhampton County Court

What a crock of Poo

Oh Platte if you read this

I think you had better look at a Road Atlas and learn how to spell NORTHAMPTON

Oh and by the way Northampton is 137 miles away from me so I hope your going to pay my TAXI fare, for the journey to and from Northampton County Court, also the time he spend waiting for me...

Do you think Im going to go 137 miles just to rip u lot apart in court you will be paying me at the end of the court session, for wasting my time...............

GIV UR HEAD A WOBBLE

Im near Bolton in Lancs along way from Northampton   <<<<<< thats how its spelt   
 
Oh why is the HMCS Print out on 1 of your letters derrrrrrrrrrr nice layout cudv done better tho 1/10

Intimidation is illegal in this country..


My RE: (to you lot at Platte) YOUR SOLICITORS CONTACT DETAILS

Still waiting to hear from your Solicitors 


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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 06:25:16 pm »

I am afraid I just had to laugh out loud at Swampy's latest posting.  What a ridiculous and pompous outfit Platte Media is. We've always thought that, but now they are showing themselves up big time, and the world can see just what sort of an organisation it is. Is it not an offence to impersonate a Court official with intent to obtain a financial advantage? I am sure Northampton County Court will take a very dim view of this.
I think I am right in saying that the very first thing Platte would have to do in taking somebody to court is to produce to the court evidence that a contract exists under which payment is due, and this is one of the drawbacks of their business model - there is no contract.
I think the end of the road for Mr. Bateup is very near.  Sorry, can't stop giggling.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 10:37:03 pm »

oh I had a giggle as well

I dunno
 
Ah well lets see what happens
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2008, 03:40:09 am »

To the Anti Platte Gang
 
OOps I forgot to mention this as well

This is another extract from the letter I got yesterday from Platte International

The business process employed by Platte International has been reviewed by a specialist QC who deemed the business process as fully meeting ALL UK STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS including meeting.
UNFAIR TERMS IN CONSUMER CONTRACTS REGULATIONS 1999 (UTCCRs)
DISTANCE SELLING REGULATIONS 2000
COMPUTER MISUSE ACT

My reply to that is how much are you paying the QC to agree with all that bolloxs.....

Ah well you broke all 3 acts  go read them yourself especially the Computer Misuse Act.

THEN GO GIV UR HEAD A WOBBLE

To the Admins

ForumFriend or anyother Admin who wants a copy of this County Court letter send me a private message with your email and I will forward it to you....

A copy of the letters has been sent to the OFT.......

To Platte

Oh and by the way Platte I will be contacting Northampton County Court sometime today to see if they have got this Pre-Submission Form on record....
If they have not I think your going to be in trouble with them.........
   
Oh and why is the cover letter Signed from your Legal Department which does NOT have any contact details..........
I wanted to contact them yesterday to give them a piece of my mind........
Also to solve this bolloxs, but oh no there wasnt any contact details for your legal department on the letter..... what a pity......

The next time your legal department contacts me please make sure they supply me with there address and telephone number.........

Steve
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G7CGN / M0SPH ( just incase theres any other fellow radio operators monitoring all this bolloxs with Platte International QTHR or on QRZ)

     





 
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2008, 09:25:30 am »

Swampy,

If indeed Platte have submitted a claim through Moneyclaim, you may want to visit their website here:

 https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/frontendcontroler?eForms_action=next_LoginCommand

I've noted the following from the site, in their Help section:

 
What happens if I ignore a claim?
If you ignore this claim the claimant can apply for judgment to be entered against you. If this claim results in Judgment being entered against you details will be entered in a public register, the Register of County Court Judgments. They will then be passed to credit reference agencies, which will supply them to finance companies and others seeking information on your financial standing. This will make it difficult for you to get credit. A list of credit reference agencies is available from Registry Trust Limited 173/175 Cleveland Street, London W1T 6QR.

If you fail to make payment under the terms of a Judgment order entered against you the claimant may apply to the court for a warrant of execution or other methods of enforcement to secure payment.

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I'm not sure how far this relates to your case.  I'd advise you going on the Moneyclaim website and check out the position for you.  If necessary, ask them for help.  I'm not familiar with this site, so can't offer any further advice on it yet.  I'll try to find out more when I've time.  If a claim has been made by Platte Media, they should have a claim reference, and you have the right to respond to their claim.
  Whatever you do, check out your situation so that you don't, by default, find yourself 'liable'.
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